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down with what he thought was a cold. more throughout the day. >> brian: if it gets worse, he'll need a heart transplant. >> steve: thank you for joining us today. log on for the after the show show. we'll see you back here tomorrow martha: the three cleveland women held prisoner for a decade are break their silence. they posted a video on youtube and they give heartfelt thanks to the public for their encouragement, support and prayers. gregg: these three women have not appeared in public since police found them inside that house of horrors where they were held captive and returning them home for the first time in 10
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long years. >> first and foremost i want everyone to know how happy i am to be home with my family and friends. it's been unbelievable. i want to thank everyone who has helped me and my family through this entire ordeal. martha: it's amazing to see these three young women able to talk and function after what they have been through. why do you think they chose this timing, this moment to speak out? >> reporter: this is a response to all the requests that have been made for under views and appearances. the people in cleveland have begun to recognize them in public and offer their support. but we can see and hear from these women and get an impression for how they are doing. >> every one who supports us, it's a blessing.
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i ask everyone continue to respect our privacy and give us time to have a normal life. thank you for your support. >> thank you, everyone for your love, support and donations which helped me build a brand-new live. i just want everyone to know i'm doing just fine. i may have been through hell and back, but i am strong enough to walk through hell with a smile on my face. and with my head held high and my feet firmly on the ground. >> reporter: we know amanda knight was beaten during her captivity and treated for injuries when she got out. her speech is halted but she says she is building a brand-new life and trying not to be consumed by hatred. martha: what a challenge that
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must be and it's inspiring to see them speaking out, being thankful and talking about a future for themselves. this man put them threw hell. when you look at the beatings and the pregnancies and the stories behind this. what about him? >> 329 count is what he's looking for including murder of that unborn child. if there are no delays jury selection will begin for him august 5. he made a request to see the 6-year-old child he fathered with amanda berry. the judge demied that request. martha: we'll look at their effort to recover in part by speaking out. miss knight talked about her faith and how that pulled her through. does that strong faith help their chances in starting a
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normal life again. dr. keith ablow joins us coming up. gregg: out of the george zimmerman murder trial set to get back underway after bombshell testimony from trayvon martin's dad tracy. despite two police officers testifying that he initially said that voice was trayvon martin now he says that wasn't true. >> i didn't tell them it wasn't trayvon. i kind of pushed away from the table, the chair had wheels, i shook my head and said "i can't tell. " but i never said no, that wasn't my son's voice. after listening to the tape for maybe 20 times, i knew that it
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was trayvon's voice. i didn't direct that toward any family members. matter of fact i think the family member started leaving the room it was too much for them. they couldn't take it. i just decided to sit there and listen to it. gregg: phil keating is live outside the courthouse in sanford, florida. a critical hearing has been underway already this morning. tell us about that. this is potentially enormous for whoever wins the argument against them. the hearing has been going on since 8:30 this morning with the attorneys battling it out. the defense wants the jury to see a computer animation showing the fatal confrontation.
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but the prosecutors say it's self-serving based on zimmerman's account and witness' accounts and it doesn't include trayvon martin's view of what happened. trayvon martin's toxicology report show small amounts of marijuana were in his system. they also say you can see an allegedly stoned trayvon martin stoned at the counter. they say these marijuana levels could have had an effect on his judgment. but the tock col just says the levels were so small you can't say whether they would have an effect. gregg:effect.he and the state ay
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decided not to file charges against zimmerman. but they said they played it once for the whole group and he testified that's wholly an error and you should always do voice i.d. one at a time so there i no peer influence. and putting the man on the stand stand -- >> i was trying to figure out the night of february 6, 2012, why he got out of the vehicle to chase my son. >> reporter: you put somebody
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on the stand like that and you could have testimony that goes to the other side. and tracy martin was able to get on to the jury the fact that zimmerman was initiating the entire confrontation. gregg: it's puzzling why they would call trayvon martin's dad to the witness stand. we'll maybe find out later. the conflicting witness accounts about that 911 call, we'll show you more of what the witnesses are saying and we'll ask our legal panel how it impacts the case against george zimmerman. plus the entire trial streaming live on foxnews.com. check it out. martha: a shocking new report on the number of people getting food stamps in this country. turns out that nearly one in every 6 american is receiving food stamps.
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that's 47.5 million people. the program expanded when the economy tanged. there was an effort to promote food stamps that came from the administration. now things have improved a little bit. the number has gone down a little bit but not a commensurate amount. stewart varney joins me now, anchor of varney and company. it is a shocking number. one in sick americans. >> reporter: i have an even more astonishing number for you. 101 million recipients of some kind of food assistance from the federal government. there are 15 food assistance programs which include food stamps and 101 million people get the benefits. by contrast only 97 million americans work full time. let me break down that 101 million number for you. almost 47 million on food
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stamps. 32 million school lunches. 10 million lunches in school. 8 million the women and infants. 2 million milk and summer food program. 2 million get farmer's markets coupons for women and children. the important number is 101 million recipients of food assistance from the federal government. 97 million people in america work full time. martha: so you have got more people on food assistance than you do fully employed in the united states of america. it just also is significant to me when you look at those numbers, there are a lot of hungry children in this country. does that tell us that people who are supposed to be getting this aid are not necessarily getting it? >> yes, it does tell us that. there is an enormous amount of duplication and the inspector of
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the agriculture department says there is overlapping and duplication. but it is astonishing that four years after the end of a recession, four years into an economic recovery, you still have more people receiving food assistance than working full r full time. that's an astonishing picture of america right now. martha: stuart, thank you very much. we'll see you later. gregg: federal investigators say they will question two of the four pilots of the asiana airlines flight that crash landed in san francisco, killing two teenaged passengers, injuring scores of others. here is national transportation safety board chairwoman earlier on fox. >> we are about halfway through the interview process but we have not yet interviewed the flying pilot.
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it's usually not just one thing that causes the crash. we need to make sure we are considering everything and we connect the dots. gregg: the other two pilots were questioned. investigators want to know why the triple''s speed was too slow and why nobody in that cockpit realize it in time. martha: we are hearing stories about the bravery onboard that burning plane. we'll hear about the woman who led the evacuation effort and was the last person to leave, carrying a child to safety. gregg: egypt on the brink of chaos. the white house preaching patience. what about all the money we send to egypt? should it continue in. >> the thing is. you wonder in our country if the military took over and we deposed a democrat president and
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martha: doomed flight 214 at san francisco's airport. two teenagers tragically lost their lives, but 305 people onboard that plane miraclously survived. we are learning what the flight crew did and it's extraordinary. the cabin manager has been hailed as a hero. she went back in the plane as it went up in flames again and again. she was seen carrying a child on her back despite a broken tail bone she had. >> it was a crash.
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it was massive. after the crash it rocked from side to side. it was not the usual landing. then i realize it was an accident. my brain was very clear taken planned way had to do immediately. actually i was not thinking but acting. as soon as i heard emergencies scape i con ducked the evacuation. when there was a fire i was thinking to extinguish it, not thinking it's too dangerous or what am i going to do. martha: she is incredible. i'm joined by the chair man of the national transportation safety board, what is your reaction to this woman's bravery? >> it's remarkable, but it is what the flight attendants and crew are trained to do. there is a lot of time spent by all the major airlines in being sure that these individuals are trained so that when an event like this happens they can move.
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martha: we have heard about the design of this plane, of the 777 and a number of elements that came into play that allowed them to get almost everybody out with the exception of those two teenagers, the rest of them fairly safely and with fairly small amounts of injuries. >> it is reaable. but saying that i think there will be a focus by the ntsb on the whole issue of crash worthiness. the seats were first recommended in 1988. and for those -- tom of your throughing audience i'm sure saw the devastation from the fire. trying to look at the flappability standard to be shoe when events like this happen the majority of people can walk away alive like they did in this event.
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martha: there were four pilots on board. they were rotating. they will interview another one of those pilots today. in terms of the slow and low on the descent of this plane, what is your thought? >> fir the issue of automation. as you know, these pilots took off in seoul and did not land the aircraft until san francisco. are we becoming in aviation overly dependent on automation so when we have a situation like this at the san francisco airport with the ils being repaired, that the crews don't have the necessary training to handle the aircraft? martha: this pilot had 42 hours on the triple 7, but he never
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land a plane at san francisco airport before this day. what do you think of this practice? >> when i was chairman of the nt $sb we looked at crew clearing. you need someone in one of the streets who has a great deal of experience in landing at that airport. i'm sure the interviews today and yesterday, the pilots will be able to speak for themselves. but it raises a lot of questions. martha: back to just getting everybody off of this plane. you read these accounts. i know this is your business and you say that's what they are trained to do. but it is an amazing thing how well their training appeared to kick in. even the police getting in there and cutting people out of their seat belts and popping the inflatable slides that had blown
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up inside the plane. >> i can't say enough about the training that the flight attendants and crew performed in order to be repaired for an event like this. you know, but at the heart of this you can have the training but you have to have courageous people who are willing to step up and do what's necessary maybe at the risk of their own lives. martha: sir, thank you. we have a lot to learn about the two deaths on the ground, one of which we think may have been the results of a rescue vehicle. all of those answers are yet to be complete. good to have you here today. gregg: after nearly four years of delays jury selection begins in the long awaited forward hood massacre trial. nadal hassan representing himself. >> somebody walks into the
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medical clinic and yelled. allah akbar and started shooting.
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martha: a severe thunderstorm causing severe proper flements middle of rush hour leaving cars strand on roads in toronto. it cut power to 300,000 people in the area. subway system also shut down about it heavy flooding. passengers were strand for hours on a commuter train that was filled with gushing water. gregg: jury selection begins today in the fort hood massacre
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trial. major nadal hassan has decided to represent himself. casey stealing is live in forward hood, texas. how is this trial expected to unfold. >> reporter: things will work differently than what's going on with the zipperman trial in florida. remember all of this is being conducted by the u.s. military. it's been a long time since one of these have played out on the national spotlight it's called a general court-martial. it's the highest hilt trial in military law because he faces the death penalty. the jury is called a panel and they will be selected the from a pool of commissioned military officers from army posts around the country. panel selection expected to last one month. opening arguments expected to
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begin at fort hood august 6. gregg: there is a legal maxim, justice delayed is justice denied. what has taken so long? four years. >> reporter: saidback after setback since the november twine shooting like hassan refusing to shave his beard. he said he was growing it out for religious reasons but it violates military code. then the 39-year-old army psychiatrist said he wanted to represent himself and he needed more time to prepare. if he wanted to plead guilty but military law prohibits that because this is a capital case. 13 people died here and more than 30 were hurt. you can imagine it was a long and frustrating several years for everyone. one sergeant who was shot five times that day described the wait to you are our own megyn
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kelly. >> not on the victims and $survivors but also our family. we are thinking now we get a chance to close the chapter and justice will be served and once begin the was a setback thrown our way. >> reporter: the agent along with the other people who survived will ironically be cross-examined about it very man who is accused of shooting them since hassan is now representing himself. it will be interesting. gregg: do we have a picture inside? sorry. martha: we have this picture. chantal picking up speed in the caribbean. we'll have more on the possible path as it may be head towards the u.s. coast.
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gregg: here we are inside the courtroom. it may be the most critical piece of evidence in the george zimmerman murder trial. the screams heard on the 911 call. is it stm * or trayvon martin. this is a fry hearing on whether the judge should allow a computer animation. [ female announcer ] nature valley protein bars,
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george zimmerman murder trial. the 911 call with the cry for help on it is turning out to be a crucial piece of evidence. just who is on the call. witnesses saying it's george zimmerman. >> do you know whose voice that is in the background screaming? >> it's georgie. >> it's george zimmerman's voice. >> there is no doubt in my mind that is george zimmerman. gregg: joining me is mark eiglarsh. jonna spilbor is a criminal defense attorney. is it all that really important? >> they call -- the call is extremely important. but if i'm arguing from the
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prosecutor's perspective i say this case doesn't hinge on who's yelling for help on the 911 call. that the after, at the end of the fight. even fit was zimmerman, zimmerman loses self-defense protection because he was the aggressor initially and anybody who starts a fight can't argue self-defense at the end of the fight. gregg: sure it is. it depend on his state of mind at the very moment when he pulls the trigger whether he seriously fears body injury or death. >> absolutely. suspicious of reasonable belief can change during course of a fight. there are cases out there that somebody can start a fight and the fight shift and whoever becomes the aggressor and the person who started the fight can
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claim self-defense. i don't know if that happened here. it may be trayvon martin was the addresser from the get-go. it is george zimmerman and i think the jury can't help but conclude after yesterday that it was. how can you not conclude george zimmerman had a right to self-defense. gregg: the judge ruled toxicology comes in with small traces of marijuana in martin. the defense will argue it affected his behavior and abecame violent. >> i would say, when does pot make you violent. i have suggest it has a tremendous prejudicial effect. they are arguing trayvon was the initial aggressor and he caused
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this. gregg: the fry hearing, the supreme court standard whether you can present scientific evidence. here computer evidence. a computer animation of how the defense says this shooting occurred. do you think the judge will allow it? >> i think it should come in because it will demonstrate -- it will give the jury a little bit more to go on exactly how this fight played out. but this judge has not ruled whenever the defense wanted to bring something. with the exception of the tsc ruling. if i'm a betting woman i say they shouldn't allow it. but it will give the jury a better idea of what happened. greg * so much has been said and written that the prosecutors have not put on a good case or prove their case.
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i tend to disagree. they can still get a conviction if they prove that zimmerman harbored ill will and he unreasonably feared serious bodily injury or death. then you could have a conviction. >> yes, i would also add, though i disagree with you. if you are the initial aggressor. if you start the fight, the argument is going to be -- i'm not saying these are the facts. but if he is the one who is the initial address jar. doles out physical contact with trayvon. you lose self-defense protection unless there is certain exceptions which they would argue don't apply here. that's their best argument. >> reporter: the burden shifts in florida to the prosecution. they have to disprove to a reasonable doubt self defense and that's a hard thing to do. thank you very much.
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martha: we have been watching this fast-moving tropical storm chantal. the collect stop could be near the united states. meteorologist maria molina is live in our weather center with more on this. >> reporter: you pointed something out that i think is important to point out it's a fast-moving storm system. it's moving at 26 miles an hour. that's pretty unusual for a storm system across the tropics. theat that won't be allowing chantal to intensify over a short period of time. but we do dough expect to intensify as it moves over the caribbean. the thunderstorms are starting to impact sections of the lesser
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antilles and tropical storm watches across the caribbean. 26 miles per hour. right now maximum sustained winds of 50 miles an hour. it's forecast to intensify. wednesday 2:00 a.m., max number sustained winds of 65 miles an hour. eventually it moves over land late wednesday into thursday. we have high masses out here so it will significantly weaken the storm system but it re-emerges over open waters. this is saturday into sunday. this could be offshore of the southeast coast. so everyone who lives across parts of georgia and the carolinas need to keep an eye on the storm system. taking a look at the tropical models they are all over the place. some of them across parts of the east coast. some of them as far west as parts of western cuba.
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we do know the water is very warm so it does have a chance to intensify. martha: we'll be watching that with your help, thanks. gregg: he defended our freedoms and survived a major injury in iraq. but when it came time to be honored at a state capitol. friend say the treatment he got was anything but honorable. martha: the administration wants to take time to figure out whether to send $1.6 billion in aid to egypt. we'll get reaction from senator rand paul moments away. geoff: i'm the kind of guy who doesn't like being sold to.
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small doorways-too small for my wheelchair. they have to carry my chair up the stairs. where do you go when home isn't home anymore? there are hundreds of catastrophically disabled veterans who need specially designed homes in order to live normal lives. yes, i am on the waiting list to have a home built. a smart home, which is a handicap accessible home. it will be tailored to my personal needs. be able to just take care of myself as an individual. it gives me back some of my dignity-who i used to be. to build these homes will take our support. for the whole story visit ourbravest.org america, we need to do this. this is the waiting list. there are a lot of people on that list, yeah. home. dignity. family. independence. home. gregg: the judge in the aaron hernandez case ordering search warrants be unsealed after
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requests by media organizations. he's accused of organizing the killing of a semi pro football player odin lloyd last month. martha: new reaction from the white house after the egyptian military's ouster of president mohammed morsi. white house press secretary jay carney says the obama administration is not willing to call this move a coup. >> we'll take the time necessary to review what has taken place and monitor effort by egyptian authorities to forge an inclose yuf and democratic way forward. i think it would not be in the best interests of the united states to immediately change our assistance programs to egypt. not just i, we think it would not in the best interests of the united states to do that. martha: let's see what kentucky senator rand paul thinks about this. welcome back to the program. what's your reaction to what jay
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carney had to say? >> let me translate what jay carney is saying. he's saying i'm going to ignore the law. the law says that when a military coup happens foreign aid should end. we are not suppose to be in favor of supporting military overthrow of democrat you canally elected government. i'm no fan of the muslim brotherhood because i don't think they should have been given money because they appeared after a military coup as well. the president is flouting the law and saying i'm above the law. that's the problem with this president. martha: there is a law on the books that says after a military coup we have to with hold aid until we can determine that we are giving money to a process of democracy. and the administration i would point out recently used that law in mali in a somewhat similar situation in the other way.
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but let's go back to this. they are saying a democratic uprising happened in the streets and that's what led to this. they want to be supportive of that so they don't want to cut the purse strings too quickly and have that backifier. >> let's put this in american terms. 200,000 tea partyers showed up on the mall to protest' obama-care. it's ridiculous on the face of this to say it's not a military coup. it's the president saying i'm above the law and i deem it not to be proper to obey the law and that's the problem with this montana i. he has no concern for the rule of law. martha: if you were president rand paul and this was happening on your watch you are saying you would yank that away. you would take that money away right now. the day that that coup happened? >> absolute lire. i would obey the law.
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the law says no foreign aid. 70% of egyptians don't like the law, don't like the money even coming to them. if you are on the receiving end of tear gas paid for with american foreign aid do you think we are happy we are sending money to your government that temperature beating people in the streets? i don't think it even buys friendship. why do the egyptians burn american flags and not like america? they see the money we give to their government that i am prisons people without trial and has indefinite detentions. it's buying friends in special areas or special interests within egyptian society but not with the people. martha: we gave $1.6 billion in 2012. it's the second largest amount of aid we give to any country. israel is the first in terms of
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foreign aid. but when you look at that picture politically, egypt and israel are our two closest allies. and the long tradition it's felt must be maintained or we risk any influence in that region. >> i'm a big supporter of israel and we are allies with britain and we don't send them any money. what is in the best interests of every country is self-sufficiency. what i said is why don't we start by not sending money to enemies of israel. i don't think egypt can be counted on as a great friend of israel. i don't think the syrian islamic rebels are friend of israel. i don't think it's a good idea to continue to fund the muslim countries surrounding israel. martha: in terms of the president, he didn't mention this when he came out and spoke
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yesterday. are you surprised he hasn't articulated more himself on this? >> he has a few scandals he's trying to keep up with, he may not have gotten to this one yet. martha: we'll leave it there. thank you very much. gregg: months after an escape from a house of horrors the three cleveland captives speak out. dr. keith ablow coming up with how these young women move on with their lives. martha: remembering the 19 elite firefighters lost in that blaze in arizona. the memorial service that will honor their sacrifice. we have a live report on that next.
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martha: outrage over the way security crews treated a wounded
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warrior. retired marine corps rall, he was seriously injured in iraq. he has limited use of his right arm. at the sacramento airport he was asked to raise his arms above his head. he couldn't do that and his uniform was swawbtd for explosives. at the sacramento state capitol, the guard told him he had to remove his dress blues base was wearing too much metal. he. a friend who was traveling with him complained to the va. this is a classic example of the security venues in this country. you have to use your judgment. you have a veteran who's being honored and you are asking him to take off his jacket? >> it's embarrassing and shameful. you have got to show a lot more
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sensitivity and food judgment. not stupid bad judgment. martha: where is the leadership and judgment? gregg: a somber memorial service is planned today for the firefighters who tide in that massive wildfire. will carr is live in prescott valley, arizona. >> reporter: we have seen emotions continue to spill out of this community. they say they will take the time to honor these firefighters. they say it's a celebration of life. the conditions got completely out of control. one of those firefighters is kevin woyjeck. he's 21. we caught up with his friend who say he had a great smile and a
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great half. his dad is a captain with the l.a. county fire department and you can imagine this has been a gut-wrenching loss for the people who knew him best. >> he was a respectful, loving, good natured lighthearted young man. i never saw him go through the awkward teens. of course, i wasn't his parent. but he always had a smile and a hug. >> reporter: some of the notable speakers. the vice president will speak, the governor of arizona. but the person who most eyes will fall on is brendan mcdonna. he will read the hotshots prayer. it will be an emotional moment at that point in met morial. gregg: it's been a week and a half since this horrible accident. how are people responding? >> a very emotional week and a
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half as you can imagine. there has been a memorial set up across from the prescott fire department. that memorial has continued to get bigger and bigger. we ran into people who had come from across the country. some from california and some have come from australia and remember these guys and mourn the loss of their lives and celebrate exactly the type of men they were and remember them for the firefighters and the family members that they were. gregg: will, thank you very much. martha: it's getting heated down in texas. a key vote set for today on a bill that would impose some of the toughest restrictions on atbhoargs this country. thousands of demonstrators on both sides squaring off. gregg: a new poll out from
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martha: awaiting a vote on a polarizing vote on an abortion law in the lone star state as the house prepares to vote on banning abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy. we are watching that one live. welcome to a brand-new hour of america's newsroom. gregg: today's voting after hours of public testimony. supporters say this offers women more protection. critics argue it's a step to make the procedures harder to get. >> we are talking about abortion. what does abortion do? it kills an innocent child.
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so the question is when is it okay to kill an innocent child too i think the issue is desperate women without hope perpetuating cycles of poverty that overcrowd tour crisis centers and prisons. martha: doug, where does this bill stand now? >> here is what we are expecting today. the texas house will gavel into session at 11:00 eastern time. the debate is expected to last all day long and into the evening before a vote. then it moves to the senate side for a vote. that after an all-night legislative session. according to the austin statesman 475 people registered to speak. that's enough for 16 hours of testimony with each speaker
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given 2 minutes. >> we have laws on the books that say when you murder a presenting man mother or you are involved in a automobile accident where a presenting man mother is skilled you are charged with two murders. >> this is based on religion, not signs and reason it's a comeo woman's constitutional right to have an abortion. martha: give us background on what has driven this controversy in this area. >> reporter: this bill would require abortions be performed in ambulatory surgical centers which have stricter requirements than abortion clinics and doctors performing apportions a- abortions would have to have hospital privileges within 30 miles of where they are performing the abortions. might would assure the clinics
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don't have the atrocious conditions we are seeing in multiple clinic across the country. >> but critic are saying that woulded would add costs. planned parenthood says they don't want interference with a woman's right to have an abergs and they will not stand for it. martha: what this bill could mean for texas and the implications for the rest of the country. we'lgregg: new reports president obama is considering withdrawing all-american troops from afghanistan. u.s. and european officials say the president has broken
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increasingly frustrated with the afghan president hamid karzai and could withdraw all-american troops by next summer. this is a major reversal of the current plan that would keep a small number of troops there. ambassador john bolton joins us. would this acceleration, the zero option of no troops after next year, would that be dangerous? >> i think it's certainly hastens the day when taliban and al qaeda retake control of afghanistan. i think that day is coming almost inevitably given the president's ill-advised policies leading to the expected drawdown to almost zero next year. leaving a token number of troops doesn't affect conditions and the ground and speeding up the
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withdrawal simply moves forward the time taliban retakes control. i think it' a disaster for american interests. gregg: reportedly the relationship between karzai and president obama has deteriorated. there. this is a president who wants to undertake huge diplomatic transformations all over the world but does this reflect poorly on his diplomatic skills? >> i don't have a lot of good things to say about hamid karzai. that's utterly irrelevant to what america's interests are. we are not there for hamid karzai, we are not there for the afghans we are there for us. we are there to protect at a
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distance against the terrorist threat posed by the taliban and al qaeda. if you have got a bad relationship with the president of a country like that you grit your teeth, smile and behave professionally and ask yourself, what do we need to do to protect tear can interests in. if the president is piqued with hamid karzai that's an even worse reason to withdraw. gregg: thank you. martha: an explosion rock a hezbollah stronghold in the lebanese capital. 53 people were you are in the this blast targeting the shiite militant group fighting alongside bashar al-asaad. it's the worst explosion to hit
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beruit in years. none of those hurt were seriously injured but it is a volatile situation that we are watching. gregg: nsa leader edward snowden could be heading to europe. snowden is living in the transit area of moscow's airport. it's unclear if he has the necessary document to leave russia. bolivia, nicaragua, ecuador also offering to assist snowden with asylum. martha: james colmey, president obama's nominee to be the next fbi director is set to face questions at a house committee. what are s so are comey * suppos
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saying? >> reporter: president obama made reference to comey's independence and deep integrity. the president talked about a 2004 incident where comey refused to sign a legal authorization for a secret surveillance program. >> he was prepared to give up a job he loved rather than be part of something he knew was wrong. the rule of law sets this nation apart and is its foundation. >> reporter: james comey gets to make his own pitch for why he deter ofs to be the next fbi director. martha: he's expected to face tough questions on key national security issues and what he would and wouldn't be in favor. >> he will face tough questions about the nsa's activities and the patriot act and more.
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let's take you live into the senate judiciary committee hearing. two senators wrote a letter to comey writing, quote, we write to you in advance of your confirmation issue to raise an issue that is of great importance to americans. torture. they are asking about waterboarding. talking to source you have on capitol hill they say he faces tougher opposition from democrats but the political reality is it's tough for democrats to stop president obama's choice for the next fbi director. gregg: you're selection in the trial after man accused of the largest massacre on an american military base in history. what do see see play out for fort hood shooter nadal hah shan? >> investigators searching for the cause of sapphirely and
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deadly train derailment that nearly wiped out a small town? today's new developments. plus this. >> help me, i'm amanda berry. >> do you need police, fire or ambulance. >> police. i have been kidnapped and i have been missing for the 10 years and i'm here, i'm free now. gregg: months after that desperate call for help, the three cleveland women held captive for a defend kade are speaking out. every day we're working to be an even better company -
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gregg: the death toll is rising to 13 in that devastating train derailment in quebec. investigators are look at whether an earlier fire on the train may have caused the brakes to file. the oil tanks explode after coming loose and exploding.
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it destroyed a public library and popular bar and 50 people are still missing. martha: the 3 ohio women held captive in a cleveland home for nearly 10 years are finally speaking out now. it's the first time we have heard from them since they were freed in may. a neighbor springing into action after hearing amanda berry's screams through the screen door. two months later they have broken their silence to thank their supporters. >> i want to thank everyone who has helped me and my family through this entire ordeal. everyone who has been supportive it's been a blessing to have such an outpouring of love and kindness. god has a plan for all of us. the plan that he gave me was to help others that have been in the same situations i have been in. to know there is someone out there to lean on and to talk to.
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i'm in control of my own destiny. with the guidance of god. martha: dr. keith ablow joins me now, forensic psychiatrist. doctor, welcome. wham your reaction when you listen to these women? >> a couple reactions. one is just honoring their bravery, being moved by their struggle and as a psychiatrist i know that challenges can still couple. there can be the nightmares, the depression, the trouble establishing relationships. so their bravery doesn't mean there won't be tremendous pain to confront in the future. but they do seem to be game for that. martha: some of the reports that came out after this. michelle knight who we heard from at the end there suffered according to the reports beatings, induced miscarriage
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through those beatings. she helped deliver the child that amanda berry brought into the world. horrific stuff. it appears her speech is somewhat still ited or slowed along those lines. do you think that -- in terms of that and what's evident, what do you make of it? >> these women are reading from prepared statement. you might see more of their struggles where you will be able to ask them direct questions. a lot of my work is about saying to people i understand you are getting through it. but tell me the other side. tell me the times when you think you won't get through it. what are those like. i know these women want to come forward and inspire others and they are. but people should remember they have been through a kind of hell and that's tough going for a long time. martha: michelle knight talked about her faith in god. she is so the brave when you
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hear her say i'm not going to let this define me. i'm walking with god by my side. how much have you seen in your work having that faith. how hopeful is that to recovery. >> you will have a lot of psychiatrists talking about the usefulness of prozac. but what she is describing is the heart and soul of recovery. if people can remember that there can be a plan for them. even through struggle. even through darkness. and look for the bread crumbs to follow their path as if it's intended for them which i happen to believe it is. then miracles can happen. when somebody says i have been through a decade of captivity. i have been beaten and raped. all these things happened to me. but i think my guiding forces to help other people who don't have freedom, that's really an example that people can follow.
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even in these darkest moment you can find light at the end of a very long tunnel. martha: she is truly inspiring. one last question on amanda berry. she is the woman whose voice we heard at the beginning of this. she led the breakout. she seems very spunky and very able. how much do it help her that she did force her way out that door? >> you can't underestimate that. that's an event that can resonate for her and other people. her parents. everybody who knew her, friend, they should all be proud because something happened in this woman's life much earlier than they are captivity that led her toe never give and always look for freedom. and as parent, brothers, sisters, friend, we can do that for each other. >> dr. keith ablow, thank you. take care. >> republican lawmakers are
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challenging president obama's decision to play a key provision of the healthcare law. can he even legally do that? which senator joh brasso joins . >> the instructions she calmly gave to this turned out to be undercover cop. >> i want it to look like -- i don't want it to look like an actual motive for the murder case.
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♪ ♪ gregg: republican lawmakers are challenging the obama administration's decision to delay a key piece of the president's health care law
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until after the midterm election. in fact, the house ways and means committee is going to be holding a hearing tomorrow to investigate whether the white house has the authority to push back the mandate on employers to provide coverage. republican senator bob corker says delaying the provision is not enough. >> i think just moving it back a year is not going to undo the uncertainty that people have. so i think the administration is recognizing that this policy is very damaging to the employment in our nation, and i'm glad they've taken this step and, yes, there's many other pieces of this -- if not all -- i'd like to see undone. gregg: wyoming senator john barrasso is chairman of the senate republican policy committee. he joins us now. senator, thanks for taking a few moments. you may have noticed that some former federal judges and some constitutional law experts are all saying what the president is doing here is illegal, and they
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point to this provision. we'll put it up on the screen. this is the affordable care act, section 1513. effective date, the amendments made by this section shall apply to months beginning after december 31, 2013. senator, the word "shall" is mandatory. there's no choice, there's no discretion. would you agree that the president cannot simply impose the mandate whenever he wants to? >> well, i agree with you, gregg. it's interesting, though, if the president has the right to pick and choose on this, then he ought to do what all americans want, which is to give a permanent delay to the entire health care law. this health care law is unraveling on the president in the face of the american people's really opposition to it. you know, people wanted health care reform because of the cost of their care, and under this health care law we see insurance costs going up, the cost of care going up. this is turning into a costly failure. gregg: yeah. and it's not just the delay on employers, he's granted more
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than 2,000 waivers. there's no authority in the act for that. most recently we found out, you know, he's going to institute the honor code instead of verification for subsidies and exchanges and, again, no authority for that in the act. do you think this president is breaching his constitutional duty to faithfully execute the laws as written? >> be well, i think we have an imperial presidency where the president is going way beyond his authority. this isn't the first time. he's done it with work for welfare issues, he's doing it now in the health care law. i think that this in terms of patients and the providers of health care and the payers of health care are all finding that this law is unworkable, it is unpopular, it is unaffordable, and now we see it unraveling in front of the american people. the president talked about some glitches in the law, a senator i think being more honest, a democrat senator, called it an
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upcoming train wreck, and now they're trying to put some unpopular parts of the law beyond the election. it looks like a cynical ploy on the part of the president to try to get beyond the 2014 elections. but people are continuing to see the cost of their care and of their insurance go up and up and up in spite of the president's promises. gregg: you know, the president says he's all about fairness, fair share and all of that, but i wonder if it's really fair to give large companies an extra year giving them an advantage, small business withs and individuals don't -- small businesses and individuals don't get the same benefit. it seems a little unfair. what are you going to do about it, you and your colleagues going to do about it, if anything? >> well, i want to get this delay going for everyone, for the entire law specifically with the individual mandate, because that's still there that people still have to by january 3st prove that -- 1st prove that they have health insurance or pay a fine or a penalty or a tax, whatever you want to call it. the law still stands for that. so if the president has the
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authority to delay one part, i think he ought to delay all of the parts, and then i don't want just a one-year delay, i want to permanently delay or actually repeal this entire health care law which i think as somebody that's practiced medicine for a long time, listened to my patients, this isn't what they're looking for if health care reform. gregg: yeah. well, the cbo indicates this delay's going to cost taxpayers about $10 billion, that after the cbo already determined that the cost of the affordable health care act is really double, up to $1.8 trillion. maybe you could rename it the unaffordable health care act? >> many people have done that. you know, they came out with another 606 pages of regulation on friday, july 5th. it wasn't because they wanted the world to know about it, and even the state of massachusetts has now applied for a waiver because, gregg, you brought up waivers? they've applied for a waiver from parts of the health care law. and the president says that his health care law was based on the massachusetts law.
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so even those who it was based upon, even they want out. gregg: senator john barrasso, thank you very much for being with us, sir. >> thank you, gregg. martha: there's that, and then there's this. another scandal is now rocking the irs. have you heard about this? what the agency's now accused of doing, posting your private information. wait until you hear about this one. gregg: and the next step in the trial of the accused fort hood shooter. what happens in the texas courtroom today? >> staff sergeant that was sitting across there me, he was crawling on the ground. his left shoulder was limp. i had reached down toward him to grab him, and when i was kneeling and pulling him towards the door, i look up, and i turn around to look behind me, and there's mr. hasan. the great outdoors, and a great deal.
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martha: wait until you hear this one. a michigan woman pleading guilty to hiring a hit man to kill her husband, but the hit man was actually an undercover police officer, and it was all caught on tape. listen to this closely. >> i don't want it to look like -- i don't want it to look like an actual, um, murder, like a murder case. >> how do you want me to do it? >> if you can do him outside, that would be great. but, i mean, if you absolutely can't, i'll understand, you know? >> so you want me to, like, i guess i don't -- i'm not understanding you. so you don't want it done in the house then? >> 'cuz it would be messy in the
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house. [laughter] martha: that, that, that. really? the police released that dash cam video. the woman thought she was talking to a hit man when, as i said, she was speaking to an undercover police officer. she's a new jersey native, she wanted her husband dead because they'd been fighting, and it was easier than divorcing him, she says. really? gregg, who's filling in for bill today, is also an attorney. i mean, she apparently tipped off somebody at work. gregg: right. >> that she wanted her husband to be murdered. and that person, thank goodness -- gregg: called police. martha: -- called the police, which is absolutely the right thing to have done, and the police set this whole thing up. gregg: at one point in time, i just read the transcript, the undercover cop says i'll just shoot him in the face, and she says, okay. martha: okay. gregg: that's pretty darn incriminating. the only thing she could claim in her defense would be the legal doctrine of entrapment that law enforcement induced her to do something that she
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otherwise would not do. that can be a complete legal defense depending upon the jurisdiction. martha: but in this case she has the friend -- gregg: yep. martha: -- who will be the witness, i assume, no, she told me at work she specifically wanted to hire a hit man, and that's why i called the police. unbelievable how cold and -- she says, well, you know, i don't want the judgment of my family if i get divorced, it'll be easier this way. she's not too bright, for one thing. gregg: and then she laughs about it. martha: how much can you get for something like this? gregg: life. martha: life. gregg: oh, yeah. martha: unbelievable. gregg: all right. martha: all right, so there's that, and then there is this. nearly four years after the shooting massacre at fort hood, the jury selection has finally gotten underway. boy, we've been waiting for this for a long time. this is going to be the trial, it's the court-martial trial of major nidal hasan. the 42-year-old faces execution or life without parole if he's
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convicted. he's accused of walking into a processing center at the army base, yelling god is great in arabic, and then killing 13 people and injuring more than two dozen others. former deputy assistant secretary of defense for detainees and manager of the national security law program and senior legal fellow at the heritage foundation joins me now. i know that you know the judge in this case, this court-martial. how do you expect this to play out given what you know about her? >> morning, martha. i know colonel osborn as fellow judge myself. she's an excellent and outstanding attorney and judge. now that we're at the point where jury selection has started, and it'll start this afternoon right after lunch, the trial will move forward. military judges are all required to conduct trials in a fair and orderly manner, and part of the orderly is to move things along. so i don't think that we're going to see any delays now that we're in the jury selection
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phase. martha: so it's a court-martial process. tell us about the panel and who is eligible for this panel. >> yeah. typically in military courts martial, the members -- the jurors, we call them members in the military -- are drawn from the accused's command. but here colonel osborn be wisely has ordered members from all around the country. members have to be the same rank as or above the rank of the accused, so here would be majors or above. so all officer panels. and for any death penalty case in the military or in the civil wan world -- civilian world, the verdict has to be unanimous. martha: what about the nature of this. he is representing himself. he's in a wheelchair based on the injuries that he sustained that day to his spine. what i do find -- obviously, everyone has the right to represent themselves if they want to. but in this case he has admitted the killing these people. and to injuring some of these witnesses that we're going to
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see on the stand. that puts these people in such a difficult position, to be cross-examined by the person who wielded a gun in front of their face, and in many cases hurt them. >> will yeah. true. not uncommon though. remember the long island train shooting case where the defendant represented himself and cross-examined the victims in a very odd manner, i might add. and here there are standby with counsel which the judge has wisely ordered the lawyers who were representing him, the military lawyers and civilian who were representing him stand by just in case he all of a sudden changes his mind once again and asks for standby counsel. so they'll have to sit there the whole trial and be ready to jump in in a moment's notice. but, yeah, it is going to be an odd scenario. you don't see it very often, but it's not totally unheard of. martha: unbelievable. four years later, and we're finally in the courtroom on this. thank you very much, culley. we'll see you soon. >> okay, martha. gregg: angelina jolie made
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headlines after undergoing a double mastectomy, and now thanks to a u.s. supreme court ruling, average americans will be able to afford the same tests for gene mutations that raised the risk -- that raise the risk of developing breast or ovarian cancer. laura ingle is live in new york city with more on this. what did the supreme court ruling do exactly? >> reporter: well, it changes the financial landscape for those in need of this type of testing. the gene is linked to breast and ovarian cancer, and genetically predisposed men and women have found it difficult to afford the test which used to cost up to $4,000 due to the patent on the testing by myriad genetics, the company that invented the test. but last month a supreme court ruling banned genetic pat tents which dramatically cut costs. testing requires blood work to test a gene which which gives doctors and their patients a heads up of a possible health
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crisis down the road. getting approval from insurance companies has been tricky, but carriers now are recognizing that the testing is actually cost effective. >> even if an insurance companying has to pay for a prof lactic bilateral mastectomy with reconstruction, and let's say that costs $50,000 as a benchmark, that is much less expensive than for paying for that same patient to have a mammogram and a breast mri every single year as well as exams by a breast specialist. >> reporter: if there is a known mutation in a family member or first or second-degree relative has developed breast or vain cancer, gregg. gregg: laura, those who will now be able to afford this test must be absolutely relieved about it, right? >> reporter: right. what was once an uphill battle is now something attainable and potentially life saving. we talked with connecticut resident gabby, a 24-year-old with a history of breast cancer in her family. >> getting tested and being diagnosed with the gene,
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actually, it was almost a huge relief for me because now i know that, you know, there's so much i can do to fight it and prevent it and take care of myself. >> reporter: and gabby has told us she has elected to move forward with the double mastectomy, a procedure her insurance will cover. gregg? greg grg quite a story. laura, thanks. martha: country legend randy travis is now fighting for his life. we've got a new update on his condition. that's coming up. gregg: and we are awaiting a major vote on a polarizing abortion bill that has sparked dueling rallies in the state capital of texas. lieutenant governor david dew hurst will be joining us next. >> we're going to pass some restrictions on abortion in texas so that texas is a place where we defend life. i mean, that's the powerful message here, and that's what we're focused on. politics will take care of itself. okay team!
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♪ i'm gonna love you forever, forever and ever, amen. gregg: country legend randy travis fighting for his life after undergoing heart surgery, that according to a statement from his family. the 54-year-old singer was rushed to a dallas, texas, hospital in critical condition suffering from viral cardiomyopathy, it's a heart condition caused by a virus. this follows a string of recent alcohol-related incidents for travis including a car crash last january. he pled guilty to driving while intoxicated. travis is best known for hits like "forever and ever, amen" and "three wooden crosses." ♪ ♪ martha: all right. to texas now where we are awaiting a major vote in the abortion battle that's been playing out there as state republican lawmakers push forward can with their efforts to pass strict new restrictions. pro-choice activists protesting
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the move to ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy. sporters say that this bill offers women more protection. texas lieutenant governor david dewhurst who has been extremely instrumental in this whole discussion joins me now. lieutenant governor, welcome. good to have you here today. >> a pleasure, martha. hi. martha: there have been a thousand people who have signed up to testify in this, we have watched an 11-hour filibuster by democratic wendy davis in this. what do we expect the happen today? >> well, we just finished our hearing, 17 hours straight over in the senate. to we had some 4,000 -- so we had some 4,000 people that signed up. we had 500 people that we heard between 10:00 yesterday morning and 6:00 this morning. so we're getting ready to take up the bill on the senate floor probably the end of this week, the first part of next, and we're going to pass it, martha. martha: you expect that vote to pass? >> absolutely. no doubt in my mind.
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absolutely. martha: what do you say to those, you know, in terms of the restrictions, we know that it would put a 20-week restriction, 20 weeks and under on abortion in texas. there's also some changes in the regulations in where these abortions could take place. it would have to be, i believe, within 30 miles of a hospital, and it would have to be an ambulatory medical facility where they take place. the other side claims that that would eliminate so many of these clinics that it would cut down on the choices that women have in texas. >> well, we don't think that's the case. we think we're protecting women's health and babies. at the end of the day, our state is a very pro-life state. i mean, other the years i've passed parental consent, macking it a -- making it a crime to harm an unborn baby, the woman's right to know. and this pill's broken into two parking lots, just like you said. the first part, we've made a decision that with 34 states,
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martha, having an earlier deadline than we have in texas for abortion and virtually all the countries in western europe -- including france -- we think five months is the appropriate time for the deadline on abortion. the second part deals with improving the health care for women. why in the world, martha, why would we regulate our clinics differently if we're taking our child to have their tonsils removed or someone wants cataracts surgery versus having an abortion? we want safe facilities. martha: it's very interesting, one of the folks who was speaking on your side of the argument at this testimony said, you know, when you commit the murder of a pregnant woman who, you know, is with child, obviously, you are charged with two murders in the state of texas. interesting argument, is it not? >> it is. it is. but, again, several years ago we made it a crime to harm an unborn baby.
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and we're respecting life. now, there are two sides to this, and there's a lot of passion on both sides. but at the end of the day, we want to protect women's health better and not have abortions done in facilities where there's not blood if there are complications, they can't take care of them. and so all we're saying on the side of the care is that do it in a facility that's safe, have the doctor have admitting privileges to a nearby hospital, and if you're using a drug-induced abortion, please, have that physician this. martha, to -- over 60% of the people in texas that's just common sense. martha: what about wendy davis? she's, obviously, been very passionate on the other side of this argument, and they do aim to seek to delay whatever they can. i think, you know, most people can say that you have the numbers on your side in this, but they're going to seek to do whatever they can to keep pushing it off the rails. >> well, what happened, what happened back on june 25th and
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the mob rule was because we got the rule within filibuster range meaning we had a 30-day special session, and we got it within the last 24 -- we could hear it within the last 24 hours. that's why. time was of the essence. but we're in a new special session, and we're out of filibuster range. so if the other side wants to talk and talk and talk, they can talk for a couple days, but at the end of the day the majority of texans and the majority of texas women -- martha: see a vote. >> -- believe that five months is a good deadline, and we're going to pass this bill. martha: all right. lieutenant governor david dewhurst, thank you very much for being with us today. >> thank you, martha. gregg: and let's check in now with jenna lee for what's coming up on "happening now." jenna: we could hear details of the interview with the pilots of that flight that crashed in san francisco. former ntsb head peter goelz is
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back with us with the late rest working theory about what actually went wrong. plus, are we seeing a repeat of the end of iraq but in afghanistan now? kt mcfarlane is here. and randy travis remains hospitalized at this hour suffering from that scary heart ailment. what lessons it holds for the rest of us. dr. segal will have the latest on that. gregg: here we go again. the irs is in hot water, this time accused of exposing thousands of social security numbers -- maybe yours. we're live in washington with the latest. people pick a price and we help them find a policy that works for them. huh? also... we've been working on something very special. [ minions gasp, chuckle ] ohhh! ohhh! one day the world... no, the universe will have the pricing power they deserve. mouhahaha! mouhahaha! mouhahaha!
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gregg: well, another black eye for the internal revenue service after it mistakenly posts the social security numbers of tens
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of thousands of americans on a government web site. no kidding. steve centanni is live in washington with more. so, steve, how did this mistake happen, and, in fact, how did we find out about it? >> reporter: well, gregg, the irs requires nonprofit political groups to make financial disclosures, and that information is posted for the public to see. now, the problem is some social security numbers were not redacted or removed from those forms before they went up on the irs web site. the watchdog group publicresource.org discovered the mistake and alerted the irs. social security numbers were publicly displayed for less than 24 hours, but by then the damage was done. in a statement public resource said in part: while the posting of this database serves a vital public service and this database must be restored as quickly as possible, the failure to remove individual social security numbers is an extraordinarily reckless act. tens of thousands of numbers were posted and public resource estimates the number could be as high as 100,000, gregg?
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gregg: well, what does the irs have to say for itself? >> reporter: well, they say these nonprofit groups are warned not to include personal information on what they submit because the information will be made public, and they say the mistake was quickly corrected. in a statement the irs says, when we were alerted last week that a substantial number of social security numbers were posted on irs.gov, the irs decided out of an abundance of caution to temporarily remove public web access to the records. the irs is assessing the situation and exploring available options. and as you mentioned, of course, another black eye for the tax agency. it's already under fire for improperly targeting political groups who were applying for tax-exempt status. gregg: i think they have an image problem. >> reporter: or little bit. gregg: maybe they could hold another on vex and do a star trek video again, this time oriented for this. [laughter] steve centanni, thanks. martha: haven't been arrested for bad line dancing yet though.
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martha: boy, listen no this one, a cleveland browns fan used his dying wish to take a pot shot at at the team that he spent his life supporting. he was 55 years old when he recently passed away this last weekend, and he requested if his final wishes that the team provide six pal bearers to, quote, met him down one last time. [laughter] gregg: oh, jeez. martha: tough to be a browns fan, as many people have testified to. he's a season ticketholder, he started each season composing a song about the browns and sending the team unsolicited advice. the browns responded saying they could not pre

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